# X: “It Was He Who Said That” explained — The Brothers Karamazov > Chapter companion for The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky. ## What happens Ivan, in a feverish and delirious state, confesses to Alyosha that he has been visited by a devil—a manifestation of his own base thoughts—who taunts him about his plan to confess to the murder of their father. Ivan insists the devil told him of Smerdyakov's suicide and mocks his motives, claiming he acts from pride and a desire for praise rather than genuine virtue. Alyosha tries to calm Ivan, recognizing that his brother's illness stems from a tortured conscience and a struggle between disbelief and an innate longing for truth. Ivan ultimately collapses into sleep, and Alyosha prays for both Mitya and Ivan, hoping that God will conquer Ivan's inner turmoil. ## Themes in this chapter ### Faith and Doubt Ivan's struggle with his disbelief is central: he is tormented by a conscience he cannot escape, and Alyosha hopes that 'God will conquer' his brother's doubt. ### Free Will and Responsibility Ivan's plan to confess despite knowing no one will believe him highlights his tortured sense of moral responsibility, even as he questions his own motives. ### Suffering and Redemption Ivan's psychological suffering—his delirium and self-loathing—is portrayed as a path toward possible redemption, with Alyosha's prayers and care offering a glimmer of hope. ## Character check-ins ### Ivan Karamazov In a delirious state, Ivan reveals to Alyosha that he has been visited by a devil who taunts him about his plan to confess and about Smerdyakov's suicide. He oscillates between rage, self-loathing, and a desperate need for validation. ### Alyosha Karamazov Alyosha tends to Ivan with compassion, trying to calm him and bring him to reason. He recognizes Ivan's illness as a spiritual crisis and prays for both Ivan and Mitya, hoping for Ivan's redemption. ### Smerdyakov Mentioned as having hanged himself; Ivan claims the devil told him of Smerdyakov's death. Smerdyakov's suicide is a key point in Ivan's torment, as it undermines the credibility of his confession. ### Katerina Ivanovna Ivan expresses fear of Katya's reaction tomorrow, believing she despises him and will cast him off, thinking he is ruining Mitya out of jealousy. ### Lise Hohlakov Ivan mentions Lise, saying he likes her and retracting a previous nasty comment, but fears she too will begin to despise him. ### Dmitri Karamazov Ivan rages that he does not want to save 'the monster' (Dmitri) and wishes him to rot in Siberia. Alyosha prays for Mitya as well. ## Key lines > ‘Conscience! What is conscience? I make it up for myself. Why am I tormented by it? From habit. From the universal habit of mankind for the seven thousand years. So let us give it up, and we shall be gods.’ The devil argues that conscience is merely a human invention, a habit ingrained over millennia, and that by abandoning it, humanity could become like gods. _This encapsulates Ivan's internal debate about the nature of morality and whether it is absolute or constructed._ > ‘You are going to perform an act of heroic virtue: to confess you murdered your father, that the valet murdered him at your instigation.’ The devil taunts Ivan that his planned confession is an act of heroic virtue, but implies it is motivated by pride rather than genuine remorse. _Highlights Ivan's conflict between his desire for moral integrity and his suspicion of his own vanity._ > ‘God will conquer!’ he thought. ‘He will either rise up in the light of truth, or … he’ll perish in hate, revenging on himself and on everyone his having served the cause he does not believe in.’ Alyosha believes that Ivan will either be redeemed by embracing truth or be destroyed by his own hatred and self-deception. _Reflects Alyosha's hope for Ivan's spiritual salvation and the central theme of faith versus despair._ ## Links - HTML: https://www.betterreads.online/discover/the_brothers_karamazov_se/chapters/part-iv-x-it-was-he-who-said-that - Book: https://www.betterreads.online/discover/the_brothers_karamazov_se - All chapters: https://www.betterreads.online/discover/the_brothers_karamazov_se/chapters