# With the Samanas explained — Siddhartha > Chapter companion for Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse. ## What happens Siddhartha and Govinda live as ascetic Samanas, practicing severe self-denial, meditation, and fasting. Siddhartha grows disillusioned, seeing their practices as mere temporary escapes, no different than a drunkard's numbness. He concludes that the Samana path cannot lead to true enlightenment. Hearing rumors of the Buddha, Gotama, Siddhartha decides to leave the Samanas, using the hypnotic skills he learned to peacefully depart from their old teacher. ## Themes in this chapter ### Rejection of Ascetic and Sensual Extremes Siddhartha explicitly rejects the extreme asceticism of the Samanas, arguing it provides only temporary numbness, not wisdom or enlightenment. ### Experience vs. Intellectual Teaching Siddhartha declares that 'there is nothing to be learned' from teachers, believing the desire to know is the enemy of the knowledge (Atman) that is already within. ### The Cyclical Nature of Life and Time Siddhartha feels trapped in a cycle, stating that all Samana exercises inevitably lead back to the self, and fears they are moving in a circle, not a spiral toward salvation. ## Character check-ins ### Siddhartha Deeply questions the Samana path, seeing it as a cycle of escape that never leads to true wisdom or nirvana. He decides to leave after hearing of the Buddha. ### Govinda Remains a faithful disciple, defending the Samana practices and expressing fear at Siddhartha's doubts, but ultimately follows him to seek the Buddha. ### The Samanas Represent the ascetic path Siddhartha rejects. Their oldest teacher is shown to be advanced in years but not enlightened, and Siddhartha hypnotizes him to secure their departure. ### Gotama Mentioned as a mythic figure, the Buddha, whose reputation as one who has overcome suffering reaches the young men and prompts their journey. ## Key lines > What is meditation? What is leaving one’s body? What is fasting? ... It is fleeing from the self, it is a short escape of the agony of being a self... Siddhartha argues that ascetic practices are merely a temporary escape from the pain of selfhood, no more effective than a drunkard's numbing of the senses. _Core critique of the Samana path._ > I believe out of all the Samanas out there, perhaps not a single one, not a single one, will reach the nirvana. Siddhartha expresses his profound doubt that the ascetic path of the Samanas can lead anyone to true enlightenment. _Declares the failure of the path._ > There is, O my friend, just one knowledge, this is everywhere, this is Atman, this is within me and within you... this knowledge has no worser enemy than the desire to know it, than learning. Siddhartha states that true knowledge (Atman) is innate and everywhere, and that the intellectual pursuit of learning through teachers is its greatest obstacle. _Pivotal insight leading to his departure._ > Positioning himself closely in front of the Samana, with a concentrated soul, he captured the old man’s glance with his glances, deprived him of his power... Siddhartha uses the hypnotic skill he learned from the Samanas to control their old teacher, forcing a peaceful and blessed departure. _Demonstrates his mastery and final use of Samana arts._ ## Links - HTML: https://www.betterreads.online/discover/siddhartha_se/chapters/part-i-with-the-samanas - Book: https://www.betterreads.online/discover/siddhartha_se - All chapters: https://www.betterreads.online/discover/siddhartha_se/chapters