# CLXXI explained — Short Works

> Chapter companion for Short Works by Epictetus.

## What happens

Epictetus advises against a philosopher engaging in discourse with the uneducated, comparing it to a sober person trying to converse with the drunk.

## Themes in this chapter

### Practical Ethics and Self-Discipline

Offers practical advice on when and with whom to engage in philosophical discussion to maintain one's own progress and avoid futility.

### Social Duty and Relationship

Implies a social duty to choose one's company wisely, recognizing that not all contexts are suitable for philosophical exchange.

## Character check-ins

### Epictetus

Delivers the core teaching, advising the well-taught to avoid discourse with the untaught.

## Key lines

> It is not good for him who has been well taught to talk among the untaught, as it is not right for him who is sober to talk among those who are drunk.

A philosopher should avoid debating with the ignorant, just as a sober person should avoid arguing with drunks.

_Uses a vivid analogy to warn that such conversations are unproductive and potentially harmful to the philosopher's state._

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