# XVI explained — Dialogues

> Chapter companion for Dialogues by Seneca.

## What happens

Seneca continues to console Marcia by pointing to examples of women who endured the loss of their children with fortitude, such as the two Cornelias, and argues that women possess the same intellectual and moral capacities as men. He urges Marcia to find comfort in her surviving daughters and grandchildren, and to recognize that Fortune's blows are indiscriminate, striking even the greatest families.

## Themes in this chapter

### Death and Consolation

The entire chapter is a consolatory address to Marcia, using examples of other women who endured the loss of children to encourage her to find strength and perspective.

### Human Nature and Folly

Seneca observes that human nature causes us to love most what we have lost and to judge unfairly those who remain, a folly that Marcia must overcome.

## Character check-ins

### Marcia

Seneca directly addresses Marcia, urging her to find consolation in her surviving daughters and to recognize the shared fate of all humans under Fortune.

### Cornelia

Cited as an example of a woman who bore the loss of her twelve children, including Tiberius and Gaius Gracchus, with dignity, declaring herself happy for being their mother.

### Tiberius Gracchus

Mentioned as one of Cornelia's sons who was murdered and left unburied, yet acknowledged as a great man.

### Gaius Gracchus

Mentioned alongside his brother Tiberius as a son of Cornelia who was murdered and left unburied, yet acknowledged as a great man.

### Drusus

Referenced as the son of Cornelia (wife of Livius Drusus), a young man of great distinction murdered in his own house, whose mother bore his death with lofty spirit.

## Key lines

> True, human nature is so constituted as to love nothing so much as what it has lost, and our yearning after those who have been taken from us makes us judge unfairly of those who are left to us

It is human nature to cherish most what we have lost, and our longing for the departed makes us undervalue those who remain.

_Seneca identifies a psychological bias that Marcia must recognize and resist in her grief._

> I shall never cease to call myself happy, because I am the mother of the Gracchi.

I will always consider myself fortunate because I gave birth to the Gracchi.

_Cornelia's famous response to those who pitied her for the loss of her sons, exemplifying Stoic resilience and gratitude._

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